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Plato’s Euthyphro
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Introduction: setting the scene: context and background narrative
2a1 - 5a2
What does the occasion have to do with the substance of the discussion? Is the one reflected in the other?
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Plato routinely gives a dramatic rationale for the occasion of his dialogues. Since there are no stage directions or program notes, this kind of thing has to go into the discussion itself, and is indicated by carefully contrived dialogue.
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1.1.1.
Greetings and preliminaries
2a1 - 2b4
Brings Socrates and Euthyphro together in the same place where Socrates himself will shortly undergo trial on charges of impiety and corrupting the youth by teaching them.
1.1.1.
The “Porch of the King” is the situation of the court in which people are tried. The whole adumbrates the coming piece in the Platonic corpus, the Apology of Socrates.
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1.1.2.
Socrates’ reason for being there
2b5 - 3e7
Socrates is anticipating his own trial on charges of impiety and corrupting the youth.
1.1.2.
Dramatically, the parallelism is evocative. It is not entirely clear why Socrates or Euthyphro really need to visit the court prior to their own appearances there: but it does create useful symmetries that echo throughout the dialogue and help put the Apology in context.
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1.1.2.1.
Socrates’ claim not to know his accuser
2b5 - 2c1
Neither Socrates nor Euthyphro knows Meletus personally.
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1.1.2.2.
Socrates’ commendation of Meletus for attending to the wellbeing of the youth
2c2 - 3b5
Is this praise of Meletus disingenuous?
1.1.2.2.
While Meletus is the chief prosecutor who will eventually bring Socrates down, it is worth noting that here Socrates is not praising Meletus for who he is or how he acts, but commending the premise on which he claims to be acting — a concern for the youth. In the Apology, Socrates takes him to task for not actually being concerned for these things he claims to have made his care.
One slight grammatical challenge needs to be offered to the West translation here: in 2d2, ὅπως ἔσονται ὅτι ἄριστοι, which West translates as “so that they will be the best” is not strictly a purpose or result clause, but a substantive clause: the sense is more “how they will be best”, hence akin more to an indirect question than a declaration of purpose.
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1.1.2.3.
Euthyphro’s identification of Socrates’ claim to a prophetic daimonion with his own special prophetic stature, and says that people laugh at him when he makes his case.
3b6 - 3c5
Euthyphro appears to be something of a bumbler who takes himself more seriously than anyone else can. It bothers him that people laugh at him.
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1.1.2.4.
Socrates says he doesn't mind being laughed at, but that there are more serious problems in how the Athenian polity reacts to people.
3c6 - 3d2
Some of the argument through this section seems unclear: what is it about making others like oneself that arouses ire?
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1.1.2.5.
Euthyphro expresses his reluctance to present his case to the people.
3d3 - 3d4
 
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1.1.2.6.
Socrates discusses how his openness to the people in his city has made him a potential target, suggesting that his time in court will not be pleasantly passed in joking.
3d5 - 3e3
This is closely connected with what Socrates says about his own mission in Apology 30-31ff.
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1.1.2.7.
Euthyphro compares Socrates’ situation to his own.
3e4 - 3e5
 
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1.1.2.8.
Socrates asks Euthyphro what he's planning to do in court.
3e6 - 3e7
 
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1.1.3.
Euthyphro’s reason for being there
3e8 - 4e3
Euthyphro is anticipating his prosecution of his own father for impiety, in letting a man die in captivity.
1.1.3.
Implicitly, an attack on one’s own father would be considered impiety ipso facto. It is worth noting that in this society, while slaves were widely considered property, they still retained certain practical rights, and hence Euthyphro’s belief that his father acted impiously is not unfounded, but certainly it is in conflict with familial obligations.
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1.1.3.1.
Conversation in which Euthyphro confesses that he seems to be insane, prosecuting his own father.
3e8 - 4a10
 
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1.1.3.2.
Socrates expresses his surprise and his (perhaps feigned) admiration for one who is so wise as to be able to figure out this problem.
4a11 - 4b2
Again — are Socrates’comments disingenuous?
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1.1.3.3.
Euthyphro apparently agrees with Socrates’ assessment that he must be very wise.
4b3
 
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1.1.3.4.
Socrates inquires about more details of the case.
4b4 - 4b6
This seems mostly a matter of nailing down the narrative details.
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1.1.3.5.
Euthyphro gives his narration of the incident surrounding the death of the slave.
4b7 - 4e3
A longer speech than normal from the interlocutor
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1.1.4.
Movement into abstraction: Socrates’ initial challenge. Socrates puts the question to Euthyphro, and gets an assurance of an answer.
4e4 - 5a2
This is recursively thematic, and it also provides the occasion for Euthyphro to make the claim to know all about piety — which gives Socrates the opportunity to refute him. Note that Socrates is not initially asking for a definition, though he does so soon.
1.1.4.
A refutation in this context is generally known (in Greek) as elenchus. (Aristotle wrote a treatise that goes by the Latin title De Sophisticis Elenchis.—  in other words, On Sophistical Refutations.)
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1.1.4.1.
“How can you be sure that in prosecuting your own father for impiety, you are not actually engaging in an impious act yourself?”
4e4 - 4e8
 
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1.1.4.2.
Euthyphro gives assurance that he knows the answer (without yet stating it).
4e9 - 5a2
 
1.1.4.2.
Euthyphro’s usage here is a curious mix of first and third person, and probably cannot be explained by anything you will find in the translation itself — certainly not West’s. When Euthyphro says “nor would Euthyphro be any different from the many human beings, if I didn't know all such things precisely” (οὐδέ τῳ ἂν διαφέροι Εὐθύφρων τῶν πολλῶν ἀνθρώπων, εἰ μὴ τὰ τοιαῦτα πάντα ἀκριβῶς εἰδείην), this can probably be best understood as a pun on his own name, which means “straight-thinking” or “clear-headed”: i.e., “I (being clear-headed) wouldn't be any different from the normal run of people if I didn’t know all this.”
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Articulating the question: what is piety (or holiness)?
5a3 - 5d7
 
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1.2.1.
Socrates claims to want to become Euthyphro’s student to learn what piety is; apparent wish to “pass the buck” for his own understanding of what piety is.
5a3 - 5b7
Is Socrates’ question disingenuous or not?
1.2.1.
Socrates suggests that if he is following Euthyphro’s advice, then Euthyphro should be prosecuted by Meletus (and the rest) rather than Socrates himself. This has a certain symmetry with the attempt to hold Socrates responsible for the misbehavior or bad attitudes of those he is credited with influencing. Socrates here is fairly obviously pandering to Euthyphro's vanity.
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1.2.2.
Euthyphro’s further claim; he describes the technique of turning to attack the attacker, but thereby exposes himself to Socrates’ questioning.
5b8 - 5c3
Rhetorical turning of the tables
1.2.2.
In a dramatic sense, Euthyphro steps in it here by assuring Socrates that he's just the fellow to address the point. One could well analyze this in terms of the dynamics of some (though far from all) Greek tragedy, in which the protagonist engages in an act of hubris (outrage), thus setting himself up for a downfall. Obviously this does not lead to Euthyphro’s death or destruction, but it nonetheless leads to his humiliation and confusion. (Despite modern usage, the term hubris in Greek does not actually refer to pride, and so one must approach this cautiously.)
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1.2.3.
Socrates states the question: what is piety? Some preliminary back-and forth discussion.
5c4 - 5d7
Continued apparent irony in asking; this is the launching point for the balance of the dialogue.
1.2.3.
Most of Plato’s early dialogues are cast in the form of a discussion about the definition of a term: What is x?. Almost invariably these dialogues fail to produce a stable definition, but wind up in a state called aporia: having the same root as our word “pore”, but prefixed with the negation-marker a, this has to do with finding no way through a problem. Other such dialogues include the Laches, on courage, Theaetetus, on knowledge, Hipparchus, on the love of gain (greed), Charmides, on self-control, and Lysis, on friendship. One of the longest and mosts important of Plato’s dialogues, the Republic, is a similar investigation of the question, “What is justice?” but it soon outgrows its initial specifications and takes in a number of different topics.
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First answer: piety is what I’m doing
5d8 - 6e9
 
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1.3.1.
Euthyphro’s first attempt at a definition, based on himself, and arguably not definitional in kind: “Piety is what I am doing, [specifically] prosecuting the guilty, etc.”.
5d8 - 6a5
Worth considering: what is a definition, and how does it differ from any other statement or cluster of statements predicated of a subject? A definition need not (and surely cannot) take in all possible predicates of a given subject, but it has a specific job to do.
1.3.1.
Ultimately Plato’s student Aristotle came to a more systematic pattern for the formation of definitions. In order to define any subject x, one needs to provide only two things: its genus (what kind of thing it is) and its specific difference (what distinguishes it from other things of the same genus. There are a number of subtle metaphysical implications buried in this method, but it has remained remarkably robust for centuries. Plato’s approach is somewhat different, though he seems to be striving for the same general effect: he asks what idea or ideal (eidos) it can be referred to (or, in Plato’s terms, that it participates in).
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1.3.2.
Socrates objects to Euthyphro’s first attempt: it may be true, but it doesn’t define what piety is.
6a6 - 6b4
Not all true and valid predicates are definitional.
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1.3.3.
Socrates challenges Euthyphro on what he believes about the tales of the poets, recording wars among the gods, etc.
6b5 - 6c4
This prepares or anticipates some of the material used to rebut the second answer.
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1.3.4.
Identifying the essential predicate
6c5 - 6d4
What is it that makes the subject under investigation (here, piety or holiness) what it is?
1.3.4.
For Socrates (and hence Plato), the defining feature of anything — that which entitles any subject to take the predicate x, is its eidos — its idea (pattern, rationale — the word is rich and complex, and is central to Platonic metaphysics. Aristotle treated the problem in terms of genus (type, kind) and specific difference (what sets this particular thing apart from other species of its kind).
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1.3.5.
Requirement to identify the eidos of the thing in question
6d5 - 6e9
Socrates sums up his questioning by challenging Euthyphro to produce the eidos.
1.3.5.
The West translation uses the phrase “the eidos itself by which all the pious things are pious”; the dative Greek relative pronoun is used for means, but also relation: it might equally well be rendered as “with respect to which”.
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Second answer: piety is what’s dear to the gods
6e10 - 9d8
Pithy; an improvement in kind over the first definition, since it is actually a definition on Socrates’ terms. Methodological correctness, however, does not prevent its being wrong in substance, which is where Socrates will turn next.
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1.4.1.
Euthyphro’s second definition, based on the gods: “Piety is what is dear to the gods.”
6e10 - 7a1
 
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1.4.2.
Verification of the answer before proceeding.
7a2 - 7b1
A useful step in any kind of discourse that attempts to reach mutual understanding.
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1.4.2.1.
Socrates commends the answer in kind as being superior to the previous one, but introduces the question of correctness.
7a2 - 7a4
A small passage, but critical to the progress from here.
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1.4.2.2.
After a self-satisfied affirmation by Euthyphro, Socrates first rephrases Euthyphro’s position here before proceeding, and verifies that Euthyphro accepts his rephrasing.
7a5 - 7b1
Typically Socratic “let us consider what we are saying”. This emerges elsewhere too; it’s one of Socrates’ basic moves. This does seems to be a critical element of philosophical discourse if it is to move beyond mere controversialism.
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1.4.3.
But the gods disagree on what pleases them, so any given thing might be be both pious and impious at the same time. Hence this definition too is inadequate.
7b2 - 8b6
 
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1.4.3.1.
The gods quarrel
7b2 - 78a9
 
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1.4.3.1.1.
Examining the nature of disagreement in humans
7b6 - 7d7
Moving the basis of inquiry from one place to another is also a typical Socratic move. The Republic, for example proposes, in its examination of justice, to see how it functions in a polis or republic, on the grounds that such a view is larger than the abstraction of justice he is initially seeking to define. (Whether that is really true or not is another question.)
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1.4.3.1.1.1.
Things that can be objectively clarified need not occasion conflict.
7b6 - 7d9
This is before the invention of “alternative facts”.
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1.4.3.1.1.2.
Things that cannot be objectively verified are the sources of real disagreement; what is good and holy is among them.
7d10 - 7d7
 
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1.4.3.1.2.
If the gods disagree, wouldn’t it be about the same things?
7d8 - 8a9
This is an intuitive leap of logic that probably can’t be strictly justified.
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1.4.3.2.
Then this definition too is deficient: any given thing might be hated by some gods and loved by another, and hence holy and unholy at the same time.
8a10 - 8b6
 
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1.4.4.
Euthyphro’s response moving toward his third definition
8b7 - 9d8
 
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1.4.4.1.
Narrowing this to his own case; evading an actual definition. Affirms that wrongdoers should be punished.
8b7 - 8b9
 
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1.4.4.2.
Another human analogy: criminal judgment
8b10 - 8d7
 
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1.4.4.2.1.
Socrates’ response: humans often disagree about such things.
8b10 - 8c2
 
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1.4.4.2.2.
Euthyphro argues that people falsify the argument to escape punishment.
8c3 - 8c5
 
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1.4.4.2.3.
Socrates’ response, that they at least claim to be doing what is right.
8c6 - 8d7
 
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1.4.4.3.
Referring the foregoing once again to the gods: neither gods nor men believe that the wrongdoers should not be punished; the point at issue is determining who is the wrongdoer or whether a given action is just or unjust.
8d8 - 8e9
 
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1.4.4.4.
Socrates challenges Euthyphro’s definition on this basis
9a1 - 9b3
“Come, Euthyphro, teach me too…” — Perhaps Socratic irony again.
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1.4.4.5.
Some more flattering comments from Socrates for Euthyphro
9b4 - 9d8
 
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Third answer (revision of second): piety is what is dear to all the gods.
9e1 - 11b5
 
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1.5.1.
Statement of the revised definition: the pious is what is dear to all the gods.
9e1 - 9e3
 
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1.5.2.
Socrates: shall we take that on faith or actually examine it?
9e4 - 9e9
Anticipates the form of the Euthyphro dilemma but at one remove
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1.5.3.
The formal statement of the Euthyphro dilemma: ἆρα τὸ ὅσιον ὅτι ὅσιόν ἐστιν φιλεῖται ὑπὸ τῶν θεῶν, ἢ ὅτι φιλεῖται ὅσιόν ἐστιν; — “Is that which is holy loved by the gods because it is holy, or is it holy because it is loved by the gods?”
10a1 - 10a3
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1.5.4.
Unpacking the Euthyphro dilemma through analogies
10a4 - 11b5
Fairly lengthy, but the sequence probably doesn’t require to be elaborated more fully here.
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[Interlude] A discussion of how slippery discourse is
11b6 - 11e6
 
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1.6.1.
Summation of objections: “But, Socrates, I do not know how to say what I mean. For whatever statement we advance, somehow or other it moves about and won't stay where we put it.”
11b6 - 11b8
Admission of defeat, though not yet finished
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1.6.2.
Socrates and Euthyphro accuse each other of being like Daedalus in argument, making their words and terms move around when one is dealing with them. At the very end (11e5), Socrates introduces the concept of justice, which will drive the next section.
11b9 - 11e6
Socrates claims Daedalus as an ancestor because he is the son of a sculptor. In context, the connection seems more a matter of blame than of credit.
The notion of justice has not appeared hitherto as part of the definition of piety (though the word appears here and there.) Arguably Socrates is making the term available to Euthyphro: whether he’s leading the witness, so to speak, is open to question.
1.6.2.
This may well seem somewhat comical as an interlude, but in fact it is connected with at least one of the matters that causes Socrates to be condemned at his trial. One of the charges is that he makes the better argument appear the worse.
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Fourth answer (suggested by Socrates): piety is a kind of justice; eventually modified into a fifth answer.
11e7 - 14a10
Though at Socrates’ prompting, Euthyphro proposes what is a fairly inventive analysis of the situation: piety is the kind of justice we owe to the gods, as opposed to other people.
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1.7.1.
Socrates questions the hierarchical relationship of justice and piety.
11e7 - 12d4
 
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1.7.1.1.
The relationship of justice and piety
11e7 - 12c9
This may relate to the Platonic notion of the unity of the virtues, but it is not fully developed as a concept in this dialogue.
1.7.1.1.
Socrates gets at an important set of logical structures here, adumbrating what Aristotle later does in his definitional hierarchies.
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1.7.1.1.1.
Are justice and piety equivalent, or is one a subset of the other?
11e7 - 12a3
Socrates suggests what may be a false two- or three-way division, though it may be implicit if one fully accepts the connection of piety to justice: either the two terms are identical, or one is subordinate to the other. Is justice part of piety, or piety part of justice, or are they just two names for the same thing?
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1.7.1.1.2.
Socrates elaborates on the nature of the hierarchies of predicates by example, such as the relationship of dread to awe, or the relationship of even numbers to the whole set of numbers.
12a4 - 12c9
Socrates has no technical vocabulary to deal with the phenomena generally, but his arguments are clear enough, and Euthyphro seems to follow them, though Socrates seems to have descended to fairly transparent ridicule by this point.
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1.7.1.1.2.1.
Socrates chides and perhaps ridicules Euthyphro for not being as wise as he thinks he is.
12a4 - 12b3
 
1.7.1.1.2.1.
West’s translation at 12a4-5 seems unnecessarily confusing: “And yet you are no less younger than I am than you are wiser.” Part of the confusion arises from the apparent solecism “less younger”, though I don't think that is what West actually means. Socrates is apparently presenting a proportionality, using a dative of the degree of difference: “you are younger than I am by more than you are wiser” (καὶ μὴν νεώτερός γέ μου εἶ οὐκ ἔλαττον ἢ ὅσῳ σοφώτερος· — i.e., “you are much younger than I am than you are wiser”). To me, the alternative reading from B (ἐλάττονι) expresses this more clearly. Still, is Socrates really talking about Euthyphro’s age (the point of the main clause), or is he slyly deprecating his wisdom? I understand it ultimately to mean “you're not so much wiser [than I] as you are younger than I." Given that age and wisdom are at least conventionally correlated, this seems a double put-down of Euthyphro.
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1.7.1.1.2.2.
Socrates unpacks the notion of subordinate predicates by example
12b4 - 12c9
 
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1.7.1.2.
Consolidation and verification that Euthyphro accepts his arguments
12c10 -12d4
This step of verification, while sometimes repetitive, seems both useful and courteous; it is also fairly typical of Socrates to win assent to a summation of the foregoing line of argument.
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1.7.2.
Elaboration of the hierarchy of the predicates in re. justice and piety in particular
12d5 - 12e4
 
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1.7.3.
Fifth answer: based on the foregoing, Euthyphro suggests a refinement of the fourth
12e5 - 14a10
 
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1.7.3.1.
Piety is a part of justice specifically concerned with caring for the gods, while the other parts of justice are about caring for people.
12e5 -12e8
 
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1.7.3.2.
What does caring for the gods really mean?
12e9 - 14a10
 
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1.7.3.2.1.
Care viewed from analogy
12e9 - 13d3
 
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1.7.3.2.1.1.
Caring for people or animals makes them better.
12e9 -13c5
 
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1.7.3.2.1.2.
Does caring for gods make them better?
13c6 - 13c9
 
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1.7.3.2.1.3.
Euthyphro rejects this conclusion; Socrates suggests that he has meant something else.
13c10 - 13d3
 
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1.7.3.2.2.
Euthyphro suggests the service of the gods as opposed to care.
13d4 - 14a10
 
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1.7.3.2.2.1.
Service viewed analogically with other kinds of service
13d4 - 14a8
Again Socrates produces a sequence of analogies: service helps shipwrights, farmers, or physicians produce their products more successfully
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1.7.3.2.2.2.
What about the gods? What do they produce?
14a9 - 14a10
A logical extension of the foregoing argument; this seems to take Euthyphro by surprise. Arguably such a line of attack could be considered impious in itself.
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Sixth answer: piety is a program of prayer and sacrifice
14a11 - 14e5
Euthyphro backtracks and takes refuge in what is basically a variant on his first answer.
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1.8.1.
Euthyphro’s statement
14a11 - 14b7
 
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1.8.2.
Socrates’ refutation
14b8 - 14e5
 
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1.8.2.1.
Complaint that Euthyphro is being obscure
14b8 - 14c6
 
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1.8.2.2.
Breaking down sacrifice and prayer in terms of giving and asking
14c7 - 14e5
One of the oldest anthropological models for religious thought is casts as do ut des — “I give in order that you might give.”
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Seventh answer: piety is a kind of commerce between gods and men
14e6 - 15b3
 
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1.9.1.
Socrates derives a seventh definition from Euthyphro’s answers: piety is a kind of commerce between gods and man
14e6 - 14e7
Socrates’ suggestion is, it should be noted, offered as a kind of contrary-to-fact or at least hypothetical one, in which the speaker has no vested certitude, using the optative mood: “Piety would [seem to] be a certain kind of commerce, O Euthyphro…” ἐμπορικὴ ἄρα τις ἂν εἴη, ὦ Εὐθύφρων, τέχνη ἡ ὁσιότης…
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1.9.2.
Euthyphro grudgingly accepts Socrates’ summation, but Socrates is not himself satisfied with it.
14e8 - 15b3
Euthyphro accedes, “if it's more pleasing to you to give it this name”, to which Socrates replies, “But it's not at all more pleasing to me unless it happens to be true” (ἀλλ᾽ οὐδὲν ἥδιον ἔμοιγε, εἰ μὴ τυγχάνει ἀληθὲς ὄν).
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1.9.2.1.
Socrates questions what benefit the gods would derive from such commerce.
14e8 - 15a11
 
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1.9.2.2.
Hence piety must be about gratifying the gods rather than helping or serving them.
15b1 - 15b3
 
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Eighth answer, equal to the second: piety is what is dear to the gods.
15b4 - 15c10
Here the discursive analysis arguably collapses, since once one circles around to a previous position, everything is caught in a loop. Socrates recognizes that and proposes revising everything from that point of departure.
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1.10.1.
Piety is what is dear to the gods (again)
15b4 - 15b6
Introduced by Socrates as the summation of the foregoing, but enthusiastically embraced by Euthyphro.
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1.10.2.
Socrates scolds Euthyphro for making his arguments go in a circle by returning to an earlier position.
15b7 - 15c7
In chiding Euthyphro for circling around again to an earlier answer that he had already rejected, Socrates returns also to his earlier interlude figure of Daedalus.
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1.10.3.
Then we either were mistaken in rejecting it before, or we are mistaken now
15c8 - 15c10
Euthyphro seems completely defeated, giving one-word answers.
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Aporia, disengagement, and parting of ways
15c11 - 16a4
Socrates seems ready to go for a dozen more rounds, if need be, but Euthyphro has had enough: he makes a hasty excuse and flees, perhaps a little wiser with the realization that he doesn’t know quite as much as he thinks he does.
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1.11.1.
Socrates pursues Euthyphro with increased (apparent) contempt
15c11 - 15e2
There are probably multiple ways of reading the tonality here, but Socrates’ obsequious petitions of Euthyphro become so broad that it is hard to take them as other than ironic.
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1.11.1.1.
Socrates proposes reconsideration of everything from the beginning, and likens Euthyphro to Proteus, who needs to be captured with cunning.
15c11 - 15d4a
The figure of Proteus here is in interesting contrast or parallel with Daedalus earlier: whereas Daedalus made things that moved and changed, Proteus himself was the shape-changer of Greek myth. This intriguingly seems to be moving the moral burden away from the argument itself and onto Euthyphro personally.
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1.11.1.2.
Socrates repeats his earlier claim that Euthyphro must surely know what he's talking about, since otherwise he would have shame and dread in prosecuting his father.
15d4b - 15d8a
 
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1.11.1.3.
Socrates begs to be taught what Euthyphro must know, but is apparently hiding.
15d8b - 15e2
 
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1.11.2.
Euthyphro pleads that he has somewhere else to be, and he has to go now.
15e3 - 15e4
People still do this today…
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1.11.3.
Socrates pursues Euthyphro with reproof, complaining that now he will never be able to learn the truth from him.
15e5 - 16a4
There seems little possible doubt that this is ironic, given that Euthyphro has by now proven his incompetence and inability to answer in almost every possible way.